By Josh Krubner & Jim Foote
“Truth, Justice, and the American Way.” These are the final words of the opening narration of most any Superman cartoon, classic comics, live action TV series, radio specials, and yes, even the movies. Along with the rest of the words one was likely to hear when the Man of Steel flew into frame, they’ve been lost to the sands of time and obscurity; a relic for “simple times” past, that don’t fit into our “modern world”. If you’ve read this opening sentence, nodding in agreement while clutching your New 52 comic stack pleased to see Superman, a true man of the people, angry and protesting in the fictional version of Ferguson… I wonder if you’re really able to call yourself a “super fan” at all. - Josh
Superman IS the superhero. He is your Mount Everest. The holy trinity of superheroes, if you ask most people, are Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. While today's kids may answer Iron Man or Hulk, let's face facts, people. They don't hold a candle to the Man of Steel. So imagine my surprise when most don't care about Superman anymore. He's fallen to the side. He's of the long, long ago. One of my favorite movies is Superman II, as evidenced in our previous article. It was the last time we received a widely touted honest-to-God "good" Superman film. Say what you want about the third one, but most people dislike it. - Jim
In keeping with the tradition we’ve established thus far, Jim and I are going into the proverbial courtroom for “Batman v Superman” ready to make a case to pass sentence on the DCCU as a whole, asking merely “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?” - Josh
While it’s true that in the past- without a special edition or a mere mentioning of another medium (comics, video games, television, etc)- we’ve stayed religiously with “movies”. This time, we’re going to punch reality in the face just a little bit and I in particular will be walking you (briefly, I promise) through the comics to see where the original “Big Blue Boyscout” decided to instead become the full-time “Last Son of Krypton,” devoid of compassion, or emotions except “hit things” and “yell”. Even though we are collaborating, we’re each writing separate pieces, as true fans of the character. We might overlap, we might make similar points, we might even disagree here and there. For my piece, I will be asking questions to YOU the reader, as I assume you’re either a fan of the character in all incarnations previous, or a fan of only the DCCU or New 52 variant. Let’s take a walk…rather a “leap” down memory Lane shall we? - Josh
I know Josh is going to take a more comics approach, but imagine this. Josh is the local and I'm the express. We'll both get to the same points, but to start things off, we're going the scenic route with Josh. Once he starts bringing the show Smallville into the game, I'll be sure to slow things down a bit. But for now, let's roll. - Jim
“Superman is too wholesome and boring.”
Beauty, much like desired character traits, is truly in the eye of the beholder, but the original Superman was pretty much “Lex” with super powers and telepathy. “Reign of the Superman,” conceived in June of 1933 by friends from Brooklyn, Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel was about an evil bald mad scientist Superman and was a featured sci-fi story in then publication Science Fiction #3. - Josh
Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat_Whispers. - Jim
See, Shuster And Siegel’s comic book was an overnight hit, but even then, comics were considered mostly playthings for children. In the ever growing shadow of World War II and at a time when people were chomping at the bit for the sci-fi obsessed spectacle that would turn into my favorite era, The Silver Age, two brothers from a small-time animation studio called Paramount’s bluff of producing the “Superman cartoon”…. And if they hadn’t, I’d bet money that we not only wouldn’t have a superman today, we wouldn’t have comics. It’s a bold claim sure, and one that’s likely impossible to prove. It’s like trying to imagine wrestling surviving the small-time show to show local circuit without Hulk Hogan and without Ric Flair. Siegel and Shuster gave us the big guy, a blocky over-the-top strong man, but he had no personality, he had no pizzazz, and he had very little in a cast of sympathetic characters. Shuster and Siegel created “super powered man,” in the same way they had with the bald evil proto Lex five years earlier. Those early stories are hard to read and harder still to get immersed in. This all changed in 1941 when brothers Max & Dave Fleischer created “SUPERMAN”. - Josh
Those of you that know me, know that my hand-writing is atrocious and my drawing ability slips between “first” and “second” grade. I know even less about animating- short of making a stick figure flip-book. The first nine cartoons planned were geared mostly around off the wall sci-fi shit (and are still some of the most memorable mainly because we have erased any and all record of WWII for some reason) which brings me to my next favorite talking point from the know-it alls. - Josh
From the very first time I watched the Fleischer cartoons, up until I bought the dvd and rewatched, I've always wanted a movie with the same feel and tone. I'll get to the Christopher Reeve flicks in a bit, but those may have the same spirit, but not the same feel. It was in these cartoons we get a real feel for the inner workings of the Daily Planet and how much of an annoyance Lois Lane was/is. We didn't have George Reeves yet, no Christopher Reeve, and sure as hell no Dean Cain/Tom Welling/Brandon Routh/Henry Cavill. This way, we were able to watch Superman in his environment, coming into his own in another medium besides comics. I, for one, would be all for a limited comic run of this old Superman. The people need it! - Jim
“There’s nothing interesting about a guy who can fly and do anything.”
Shortly before giving Superman his most “super” power ever by complete accident, the Fleischer Brothers penned the iconic script that completely leaves this power out all together. If you’ve ever actually READ the words “Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to LEAP tall buildings in a single bound,” it pretty accurately explains Superman’s power set. You might notice the heat vision and oh yea, FLIGHT are missing, and you’d be correct. Siegel and Shuster did not gift the Man of Steel the ability to fly (or shoot red lasers from his eyes). When the “leaping animation” looked shitty, Max Fleischer said “fuck this! Get on the phone to Action Comics, and ask them if we can have him fly?” Action Comics agreed and it was written into both the cartoons and the comics from that day forward. I’m sure Jim has a certain picture he’d like to throw in for this part. - Josh
Fleischer Studios turned into "Famous" a year later. The brothers were forced out, taken off Superman, and even had their own falling out. The remaining Superman cartoons dealt with him going into battle for the Allies in WWII. Good luck finding them and not paying for some insane $60 bluray. Stomping Nazis and “slapping japs” (their words, not mine) was all well and good, but the thing that really made Superman, “Superman” was coming soon. This is the single thesis of our article, and where we will spend most of our focus. Superman isn’t “super’ because he can fly around and in some incarnations even toss entire planets. He’s “super” because he won’t let himself do those things. He’s worked hard at this over the years, sure, but everything he was taught, everything he is, he owes to two people; Jonathan and Martha Kent.
“Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel was a great father. He understood the importance of protecting his son at all costs, and yes, that means sometimes you need to let others die!”
I’m quite sure Jim will RAIL against the quote in question. I don’t. By that point of the movie, I was just completely fed up and didn’t care. Seriously, why was Kal-El made of babies? Yea, that happened it’s a thing… fuck you, Zack Snyder! - Josh
You're damn right I'm going to rail against this. You hear that? You feel that? The storm is coming... it's almost like a tornado of disdain. If it was an actual tornado, I'm sure Costner Kent would just stand there and field of dreams that sombitch. - Jim
The 50s and 60s brought us every possible offshoot spinoff, imaginary tale, reimagining that anyone could ask for or hope for. It was here that SEVERAL of the most important aspects of the Superman character first came to pass. Unfortunately, I’m one of 6,654 people on the planet with an appreciation for this time period going past 1954. I’ll talk more about these things in the more modern/bronze eras, as they are just as relevant but a tad bit more mature refraining from using the words… “sob” and my favorite, “choke”. - Josh
Okay. I'm here and I am the tornado, pulling up and destroying Costner Kent. Let's get one thing straight. Whether you liked Man of Steel or not, you cannot argue one of the strongest, most obvious points. Costner Kent was an awful Jonathan Kent. Either you're nodding with me in agreement or going, "well he didn't get it. He just hates on the movie and will say anything he wants." To channel my inner Spacey Luthor, "WRONGGGGGG."
I wanted to like Man of Steel so bad. I wanted it to be the quintessential Superman movie for my generation. I wasn't alive for either the first of second Superman movies. When it first came out, I overlooked every shortcoming the film had, just so I could convince myself it was awesome. I sat there like a Monkey banging cymbals. Thing is, you can't ignore the big mistakes made with Pa Kent (and something they may be replicating in BvS with Ma Kent).
In Superman: The Movie, Pa Kent isn't around for long. The Kents discover baby Kal-El, you see him fixing a car during the Smallville years, and then he dies. But not before he speaks a line of dialogue that puts Costner Kent TO SHAAAAME!
Whichever version of Jonathan you’re dealing with- even if he does end up dying a short time later like in Superman: The Movie- he’s the proudest and most noble father ever depicted on page or screen. He teaches his adopted son, an all-powerful alien with the ability to destroy worlds with a sneeze, the value of human life, and the idea that he isn’t alone in the world, he’s one of us. I’ve been exposed to MANY versions of “pa” Kent over the years. My direct favorite story is still without a doubt the one featured in “Adventures of Superman #500” but thanks to Jim’s insistence while we were rewatching the movies that I needed to finally watch Smallville, I have some truly great top 9 moments now. Smallville by itself is…well it isn’t great. It tries really hard, takes place in the formation of the writer’s strike, and didn’t have the rights or licensing to use “REAL” names for a really long time. It has some off the wall monster of the week episodes, but it has four of the best characters I’ve ever seen, the best of which is Jonathan Kent.
John Schneider, “Bo fucking Duke” himself plays a “good ol boy” (and there’s plenty of non subtle references to this throughout that will delight) Jonathan never compromises his values or integrity even if it means putting himself or his family at risk for a good cause. He’s a relatively poor struggling farmer, but he constantly turns away hand-outs from the seemingly good-intentioned Luthers. Despite being a dick to Lex in almost every single episode of the series, he’s still “honored” to play the part of Lex’s dad (who is very much alive, but definitely not invited) at Lex’s wedding to Helen.
Jonathan constantly tells Clark that he can’t use his abilities to cheat at life for anything, from bank robbing to bullies, jump shots and football, and most importantly, he tells his son that’s he’s never alone. Admittedly, I’m powering through the show but I’m only up to season four. I’ve already been spoiled that Jonathan Kent isn’t long for that world, but it often comes with the territory of the character. I’ve been trying to nail down the quintessential Jonathan quote that would make the Kevin Costiner version look like Hitler by comparison. There’s SO many to choose from, but I believe these two hit the nail on the head:
In an episode about “Cyrus,” a boy with a healing touch who believes he has a chance to return to his “home planet," Cyrus abandons the voyage to save the life his personal bully. Clark later asks his father “Why would Cyrus pass up his only chance to go home to save the school bully?” and Jonathan responds “Because Cyrus was maybe more like you than we ever truly gave him credit for.”
But rather than run down the list of quotes that had me cheering and feeling six years old again, this quote from the Pilot says it all:
Clark: Dad, I just wanted to say that I’m really glad you and mom found me in that cornfield.
Jonathan: We didn’t find you son. You found us. - Josh
I'm going to overlook one big gaf. His name is CLARK because that's Martha Kent's maiden name. Martha Clark Kent. In this, he's Clark Luthor. WHY WOULD LIONEL STILL NAME HIM CLARK?!
Ok, ok. Anyway, this is what he is about to do because he wasn't raised by the Kents, but rather Lionel.
Fuck you Costner Kent. YOU HAD ONE JOB TO DO. ONE JOB! - Jim
The story I referenced earlier, taking place after the “Death” of Superman happens when Jonathan has a heart attack and joins his son in the great hereafter. 90s villains/demons Blaze and Satanus had been waging a war for the soul of Superman since the late 80s. With him shuffling off from the mortal coil, they figured it was the time to strike. Reliving a literal hellish Vietnam flashback, Jonathan makes his way to Clark and reminds him of his humanity and everything he still has to fight for. The two grab each others’ hands and return to the land of the living, with Clark giving full credit to Pa for having saved the day.
“It’s so stupid that his disguise is simply wearing glasses. How does anyone not immediately realize that Clark Kent is Superman?”
While it’s true that this could be a bit of a stretch in a modern Big Brother social media world, in the old days, people didn’t realize Clark and Superman were doubles because they had no reason to suspect greatness from Clark. He was a good man, and a “mild-mannered” bumbling farmboy. He slouches and wears glasses that are too big for his face. He speaks at a slightly higher and meekish octave. As Superman, he stands tall and proud, speaking in a booming commanding voice of authority, but authority with a smile.
Lois often went to homicidal reaches to discover the identity of Superman throughout the eras. She usually suspected that he was Clark Kent, but she never wanted it to be true. Even in the GOOD movies, as we’ve covered, she has no interest in Clark Kent and only wants to be “Mrs. Superman”. Lex himself discovers the identity in a canon story of the old DCU (this means that this story was valid from 1986 until 2011) in a classic tale called “The Secret Revealed”. When the computer printout confirms that Clark Kent’s DNA matches that of Superman, he destroys it in a rage and lets the kidnapped and tortured Lana Lang go. Lex audibly claims that the computer “must be wrong”, but his inner monologue reveals that he refuses to accept this truth. Someone like Clark Kent could never measure up to being a worthy rival for the great Lex Luthor.
Some of the best moments of the Man of Steel (that’s the nickname of the character, and NOT the awful movie) are when he’s addressing a packed Watchtower of assembled A through D-listers for nameless universe destroying event #493. He often approaches someone like “Damage” or “The Alpha Centurion” and tells them “everyone has a part to play. If you’re here and listening to this message, you’re no less important than Batman or Wonder Woman.” Others stand in the background of these speeches in wonder at just bearing witness to his presence and being told they matter. - Josh
That's the thing with Supes. He doesn't view himself, or put himself, over anyone else. He is able to recognize his abilities, yet remain uncorrupted. We as readers have favorites, least favorites, superheroes you don't care about at all, and others you'd never care to read. Superman... he sees everyone at an equal plane. Like he said, "everyone has a part to play." - Jim
“I’m really glad they didn’t do any of that Superboy crap in Kansas during Man of Steel. I liked seeing him freaking out about having powers. That’s how it would be in the real world.”
Since Zack Snyder didn’t ever once try to hide the fact that his Superman was “space Jesus," I’ll give you the most important “Christ metaphor” rarely known or discussed in comics. Part of those zany 50s comics, were the stories of Superboy and later the Legion of Superheros. If you know who the Legion are, you’re one of like 300 people on the planet. If you know and like the Legion, and are female, marry me? There’s 14 of us in this world. While it was mostly “childish antics” in the 50s, the Legion has “changed” to headache inducing levels and relaunches over the years. Their message, and inspiration, however, has always remained the same.
Set in the future of the 30th Century, the Legion is a team of super-powered teenagers coming together to do good for the now United Planets. Their inspiration for everything they do, is the Superman of the late 20th Century. Forbidden from interfering directly with Superman’s explots in Metropolis, Saturn Girl has herself a crush and convinces the others to take a timesphere to Smallville where they can meet Superman, as a young boy growing up on the farm, having recently discovered some of his powers. In more modern stories, this take has seen very mature and absolutely incredible themes. Superboy is doubting himself, questioning where he has come from, and is terrified to find out about his lasting legacy. How can he ever measure up to these boots he has yet to fill? The Legion learns the lesson of “meeting your heroes” and also learns that he’s no messiah, he’s a hero just like any of them, eager to be one of the team and just hang out with his new friends. - Josh
Superman, in my eyes, is the most tragic superhero there is, and that last bit involving the Legion, explains why. (Also, more people need to know about the Legion. Come on. Can't we get a movie of them too? If Marvel is making the freakin' Inhumans a thing, why can't DC pull the trigger on the Legion?)
Superman is destined to outlive his loved ones. The Kents? Gone. Lois Lane? Gone. Lana Lang, Pete Ross, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, even Bruce Wayne? He will outlive them all. His home planet exploded and its pieces can kill him. (We are also operating under the original origin, without a New Krypton, Supergirl, etc.) He most encapsulated what the human race wants to be, the best of us, yet he will never be one, no matter how much he wants to be. Yet, in spite of all that, he will still protect all. - Jim
“Superman is boring because he’s invincible. Nothing can even hurt him. How is that interesting?”
We all know that Superman’s weakness is kryptonite, but I don’t think we all understand how and why it works.
Kryptonite is remaining pieces of his home planet found on earth. Superman’s powers are derived from the radiation of the yellow sun (Krypton having had a red one). This radiation, infused with a being, makes them “super." This radiation infused with kryptonian ground however, makes it deadly and poisonous to Clark. The rock itself is turned “super,” but doesn’t have any abilities outside of endurance/ability to neutralize his powers. Sometimes it makes him able to be injured and takes away his invulnerability, but usually only kryptonite itself can hurt him. In Man of Steel, the terraformed “kryptonian atmosphere,” acted in place of Kryptonite and didn’t make ANY sense (but we’ll get there).
Clark is also weak against “magic,” and of course his biggest weakness is how he cares about others and be easily exploited for doing so. - Josh
Not to mention, by now, there are way too many variations of Kryptonite. Including all forms of media, we have the following:
“Superman killed Zod, so the movie sucked.”
If your only issue with Man of Steel was the fact that he killed Zod… you’re doing it wrong. The movie definitely sucked, but this wasn’t why! Superman has killed Zod previously, and most recently during one of the best and most human iterations of Superman ever. I’ll spare you further comics nerding out and just say Superman 1985-1993 is the absolute best that has EVER been written about the character. You owe it to yourself to find and read EVERYTHING. In the comics, Superman is faced with killing Zod and co. because having lost their powers, Zod swears eternal vengeance and that he will return to kill everyone Clark loves. This decision eats him up so badly, that he develops a split personality, sends himself into exile, and goes on quest after quest of self-discovery. In Man of Steel, he smiled and destroyed satellites while cracking wise. An ending with him showing last minute restraint and remorse might have made me hate it a little less, but going by the BVS trailers, it’s obvious he’s become the Injustice: Gods Among Us fascist Superman complete with the nazi death squad. I hope Ben Affleck kicks the shit out of him. - Josh
Superman killed Zod in the comics, like Josh pointed out. Also, he kills Zod in Superman II. After the trick switcheroo of powers, resulting in Zod and his cohorts losing theirs, Superman tosses him down to... well, most likely, an arctic abyss in the Fortress of Solitude. So, Supes killing Zod in Man of Steel isn't your "oh what the hell" moment. Your "wth" moment should be Superman not immediately taking Zod into a random farm in Smallville to fight, not the overpopulated Metropolis.
As for Injustice, I hadn't seen the in-game clips and story until the other day. I'll show you a picture from the game and a picture from the BvS trailer. I hate to say it... but that looks eerily similar. - Jim
Funny you say that, average fifteen year old movie-goer. DC was SO dark and depressing in the comics, that Geoff Johns (who then blew up to absolute company wide comics superstardom) penned a story called “Infinite Crisis” in which the original 30s Superman came back to say “you guys are all assholes, we let the wrong world survive. This is a mean and miserable place. We need old-timey values and the Daily Star back!”
Man of Steel (that’s the movie, and not the fantastic 1980s revival comic series) has NOTHING of what makes “Superman” super, except for some great flying visuals.
Clark shows no restraint from the fight in Smallville onward. He’s a rage monster going full force and putting others at risk. By our count he’s responsible directly for the deaths of thousands. Being as this is Batman’s entire motivation for being pissed at him in the next movie, these are facts that can no longer be refuted.
Terence Stamp’s calm, cool and collected Zod has turned into a space tyrant terraformer who wants to rebuild Krypton- which would seriously take away all his super powers. Not to mention, by Zod’s own words and the history holograms showed, every single kryptonian explorer outpost died. Perhaps they were shitty explorers and settlers.
In debating MOS over the years, I always bring up the polarizing “Death of Superman." It’s not great, hell it’s not even that good. It’s full page splashes about a mediocre fist fight. It’s only “ok” if you take all the issues as a whole together to see Superman actually be himself. For the first time, Superman is truly afraid. He fights Doomsday and ends up getting his leg and ribs broken. He’s able to bleed. He still runs off to save people. By the time the fight reaches Metropolis, Clark realizes he can no longer hold back. They hit each other with such force that “office windows blow off and car alarms blare." They leave an impact crater from punches that level an entire city block. It’s unavoidable, and Clark is still on focused on the safety of Lois, Jimmy, and other onlookers. He pleads with people to get to safety and does what he has to, to put Doomsday down for good. His “last words” are asking if the people are safe.
The MOS Superman goes full force from the moment Zod threatens Martha Kent. He’s a cocky asshole and even accidentally teaches Zod to master his powers in a split second. - Josh
Well. Shit. He's not wrong. As soon as Zod threatens Diane Lane, Clark goes full "bro." - Jim
“Why didn’t that family just try to run away from Zod’s beam?”
The better question is with the direction Clark snaps Zod’s neck, how didn’t he immediately draw the beam on top of the people? In any event, the reason the people remaining cowering that I can come up with, because they were convinced that if Zod OR Superman won the fight, the winner would atomize them for shits and giggles seconds later just the same.
In Superman II, Zod throws a tanker at Clark after having figured out his true weakness- the level of care he’s showing for civilians. Clark catches the tanker and douses the flames on it. He almost shits his outside undies when Zod endangers a fucking bus full of what, twenty-nine people?
In MOS, Zod again throws a tanker at Superman…who leap frogs it for no reason, letting it crash into a building full of innocent civilians behind him… where it not only immediately violently explodes, the force of the explosion is so bad, it destroys the building and levels the entire block. - Josh
First, Superman II.
I know, I know, we’re saving the Batman arguments for a later tie-in piece, but this super amazing Batman idea is VERY recent (Nolan movies/Tower of Babel storyline) they had previously, believe it or not, been best friends. They’ve “fought” over the years, and until the new 52, they never had an actual street fight. Despite how RIDICULOUS that one was (Batman beats him with synthetic kryptonite gum…and mini red sun brass knucks) Batman’s claim is true, “When Batman and Superman fight, no one wins”.
The most chilling and telling line/commentary on the state of comics in Infinite Crisis is when Batman says to Clark, “face it Superman, the last time you actually inspired anyone, is when you were dead!” and he was right. Despite efforts to return to the Before-time (also by Johns, Superman: Secret Origin, I implore you to check it out, especially if you like the idea of Lex and Clark living in smallville as friends/later enemies) we ended up with the new 52 ultra violent asshole dead parents Superman debuting in Justice League fighting Wonder Woman and actually saying “wow, you’re strong”. (ugh) And what we have going currently is SO much worse. The movie didn’t reflect this at the time, this is reflecting the movies. The DCCU is a dark and evil place. I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised to see them destroy ALL of Metropolis and ALL of Gotham in BVS at this point.
In the old universe comics, after taking away Lex’s kryptonite ring in the 80s, Clark gives it to Batman because he trusts him. He implores him to keep it locked up, but to use it against him should he ever need to be put down. Bruce is speechless at first, but accepts the responsibility, and only ever pulled it out that one time, during Infinite Crisis, just to make a point that maybe Superman wasn’t so “super” anymore.
There’s a reason that life-long Superfan (and now writer) Max Landis opens his incredible “Death and Return of Superman” commentary this way. The people have given up on their hero and on their friend. Landis makes the point that Superman’s death was a huge deal in the cultural consciousness. It was covered on CNN, and had front page write-ups in the New York Times. They covered his wedding, and even did paltry coverage when they made him <sigh> “electric blue,” but where have the real-world press releases gone since? Batman, Spider-Man and now Iron Man are “popular” sure, but people from elementary school to post retirement have been calling out “it’s a bird it’s a plane” since the 50s and saying “faster than a speeding bullet” for ten years before that. You don’t hear this much anymore. It doesn’t make its way into movies or TV shows. Jerry Seinfeld had an entire episode called “The Race” in which the iconic John Williams theme played over the titular showdown. Hell, it’s on my driving playlist and I ski to it. Does Man of Steel even have a theme? Would we be able to hear it over all the exploding buildings and screams from the civilians of Metropolis in the first place? - Josh
With Superman Returns, people were clamoring for a new Superman movie. They needed it like a druggie needs a fix. What they got was a boring continuation of a movie 15-20 years too late. Not to mention, it was a sequel to the best Superman movie ever, with the entire character list recast. So when people went and saw it, instead of screaming out of excitement, they simply went, "wait... really?"
That's assuming people went to see it, since it wasn't the financial success WB and DC expected it would be.
So when Man of Steel came out, the trailers looked sick and the promise of a now expanded universe (thanks Marvel) had people really popping big time. Then we got what we got. People seem to hate it or love it. The excuses I get always fall under the, "well it's year one Superman" umbrella. To me, it's no different than the bullshit reason people give for the dumb choices in The Dark Knight Rises. When you ask why Batman talks in that voice when he's alone, people go, "well.. he's Batman." Yeah, I know who he is. Doesn't mean they didn't make a pretty dumb choice. Same thing goes for Man of Steel, folks.
With BvS approaching, let's face it; no one gives a shit Superman is in this movie. What are people talking about? Batfleck. Wonder Woman. Aquaman. Cyborg. Justice League tie-ins. Lexie Eisenberg. The only time Superman comes up in conversation is when someone's hoping Batfleck kicks his ass.
That's what Superman has become. What was once the biggest superhero EVER... has become an afterthought. Congrats DC. You had one job to do. This is why we can't have nice things. - Jim
I leave you with this final thought:
There should not exist a movie about Batman teaching Superman a lesson about needing compassion and humanity. His father should have already taken care of that, enabling Clark to be the person to one day show Bruce Wayne that it’s actually HE who isn’t truly alone in this world. How far have we fallen into Bizarro World, and What the Hell Ever Happened to Man of Tomorrow? - Josh